we do speaking and we do also helping christians that are being persecuted in countries like pakistan. and we help christians who are suffering all throughout the middle east. >> and how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> isn't it anyone's business who donates to you? >> of course. but you see, a lot of the times if you disclose information who you're helping, it ends up biting them. >> reporter: the business in fact shoebat leaves up to his manager, keith davies, who was down the hall selling shoebat's anti--islam books. when cnn had specific questions about the business, like perhaps the names of the high-ranking generals and experts he said are on his board of advisors, well, shoebat said get the names from davies. >> walid said that you would be able to tell us about your advisory board. you guys said you have generals and other high-ranking officials? >> correct, yeah. >> can you tell us who they are? >> off the top of my head, yes. let me see. i'm trying to think. the name's gone blank. it will come back to me in a second. major general -- i can't remember the name. fo